Jazz,
We've gone head to head before, you know you get my respect. You provide thoughtfull debate. It's just irritating the ways some of these smucks constantly repeat those types of insults simply because we disagree.
Patriot,
Wake up! He got turned down by the U. of Texas because his grades were too low. He only got a 1200 on his S.A.T.'s, which when you think about it is pitful considering that S.A.T.'s reflect preperation more than intelligence and that he's from an affluent family. He avoided Nam knowing he would go into politics, that's dumb. The Pope asked him to stay the execution of that woman on death row back when he was governor of Texas. He didn't even respond, knowing he would run for president, that's dumb. You at least say sorry Pope I have to go with the wishes of those that elected me. He can barely express himself in public although he has no apparent speech impediment other than stupidity. He makes moronic comments like "Axis of Evil" making himself look prejudiced while offending god knows how many and increasing Anti-American sentiment. He thought he could get away with having Powell lie to the U.N. He was afraid to debate Saddam. He walked out of a press conference that he and Tony Blair were at because he couldn't handle the questions.
Bush Sr. was a bright guy but trying to say Bush Jr. is bright just makes you look bad Pat, stick up for him on other merits don't embarrass yourself.